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Posted: July 07 2005, 06:53

Just wanted to express our concern and well wishes for any and all
UK tubular forumers.
Tony and Julie


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Posted: July 07 2005, 06:58

Yes, I've just heard the news, and I echo Tony and Julie's thoughts. Shocking news indeed.

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Posted: July 07 2005, 10:00

I've just realised there were 7 explosions and it's 7/7 (July 7th) indeed...

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Posted: July 07 2005, 12:20

Though I'm sceptical with london and the bombings, I really do wish that none of the users of the boards have been hurt/or families in anyway!

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Posted: July 07 2005, 14:04

What are you sceptical about?
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Posted: July 07 2005, 15:36

Well, UK win the the right to hold the olympics
big talks with the G8 thing
Bush is still on a war on terrorisim mission and losing peoples faith

So wonder if both Bush and Blair decided to have parts of london bombed for 2 reasons
1. That "terrorisim" is still around
2. London need money to cover costs for the Olympics and a nice insurance job would do nicely

Maybe a crap thought but I just dont believe anything anymore these days


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Posted: July 07 2005, 16:10

Personally, I think you're crazy to think that the leaders of the US and the UK would orchestrate a terrorist attack... the very attacks they have vowed to prevent.  Not that they have done very much to prevent them...

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Posted: July 07 2005, 16:36

My post here upset Tracy for some reason that I don't understand, and since what I wrote was unimportant, I've removed it.
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Posted: July 07 2005, 16:43

I answered the question on why I was sceptical

it seems I'm classed now as crazy for my post, but consider this, what if I'm right? I do hope I'm not right but who knows...


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Posted: July 07 2005, 17:47

I was concerned about a friend , who I feared was caught in the explosion today. Thankfully my friend missed the explosions.

Phew that was close I was due to go to London tomorrow, for what was my last appointment at the Eastman Dental Hospital, located between Kings Cross and Russell Square, luckily it had been postponed the previous week.

I did maybe intend going to see if I could hear the Queen and Paul Rodgers concert in Hyde Park tomorrow night ( tickets were a bit out of my price range). Just looked on "www.queenonline.com", the concert has been postponed until 15th July, (Sorry I didn't post as a link, but can never seem to get them to work).

All this within a week after the jubilation of the Live 8 concert, and the news London is going to hold the 2012 Olympics.


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Posted: July 07 2005, 21:06

My ex-wife's sister was stuck in her office near to one of the expoloisions (luckily she had gone to work early), but she's Ok.

My own initial thoughts were
1) it could have been so much worse, look at the thousands in 9/11 New York

2) so much TV coverage for 40 people dead, when thousands died in Africa in the same time through famine and curable diseases, even though just one death is too many.

3) What were the terrorists hoping to achieve? This only made the world more resolute in defending our way of life - democracy, freedom of speech, co-habitation with different beliefs etc.

4) The G8, for any faults, were discussing ways to improve the world, so why distract them into discussions on terrorism

5) and i hate myself for this, but i have probably read too many tom clancy novels..the conspiracy theory that Blue Tape suggested. It has been known to happen elsewhere.

6) Of all the towns to hit, London has probably the most practised response to this sort of incident. And so the best reduction in effect. Which other town would have people queuing politely to leave a bomb ravaged tube train, or the regular staff trained to get people to safety quickly?

and lastly-

7) how powerless the security services are without on the ground intelligence. Without the contacts or moles inside these groups, how do you get any warning that this sort of attack will happen? A small bag left at the next Mike gig, comercially available explosives.


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Posted: July 07 2005, 21:55

My heart goes out to all those affected by those despicable attacks.  Indeed, the other issues the G 8 was to consider—including Africa and global warming—are now obscured. Every five seconds someone dies from hunger and hunger-related disease (according to the World Health Organization), but terrorists have little regard for life anywhere. That was certainly demonstrated today in London, a beautiful city (people-wise as well as city-wise) that embraces so many cultures and traditions.  Global warming? Goodbye inhabitable planet if we don't get our act together fast. The US worries about economic inpact of clamping down too hard on the energy industry? That's laughable considering the economic impact of global warming within the next 100 years and maybe even less.

Our planet is a pale blue dot when seen from the edge of our solar system, as Carl Sagan would have said, and issues of hunger, global warming, terrorism, economics, etc. affect all of us.

I had such high hopes for the G8 and that one nation in particular might start to see the interconnectiveness and begin to behave as a more responsible member of the global community. The Lakota have an expression, Mitakuye oyasin--literally "all my relations" usually interpreted as  "we are all related."  Within that is also a belief that because we are all related, we must act responsibly and ensure that conditions are good for the next seven generations (in perpetuity).

Brightest blessings, peace, and warmest regards to all.


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Posted: July 07 2005, 23:17

My first initial gut reaction was that it was not a terrorist attack, I would not be so bold as to accuse Blair or Bush, but I think they are too quick to blame terrorists for their own means, when it could just as easilly be the work of a crazy Englishman or someone who is reacting to the G8 summit or to London winning the Games. I do think that Bush has to take some responsibility for some of the terrorists attacks, but I don't know if Blair has said or done anything to illicit this response. Why do we as a nation feel somewhat comforted to think this was the work of someone other than our own countrymen. It doesn't lessen the damage. Not terrorist related I feel.

It is a shame that these things get so much attention and take away from the millions of people who are starving to death, but you have to forget about the media and just feel the empathy that you feel each tragedy deserves. It is up to us as individuals to not ignore the plight of the starving just because it doesn't get 24 hour media coverage.

My hearltfelt wishes go to anyone who is remotely affected by this recent event.  

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Posted: July 08 2005, 00:28

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Posted: July 08 2005, 00:35

But how is Bush manipulating other leaders such as Blair and Howard? Surely if the common man can see dirty work is afoot why  can't our other leaders see it and why is no-one stopping him? He obviously wants it to be the U.S., U.K., and Australia against the rest of the world, where is the unity?

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Posted: July 08 2005, 01:02

Quote (TubularBelle @ July 08 2005, 00:35)
But how is Bush manipulating other leaders such as Blair and Howard? Surely if the common man can see dirty work is afoot why  can't our other leaders see it and why is no-one stopping him? He obviously wants it to be the U.S., U.K., and Australia against the rest of the world, where is the unity?

Your answer lies here:
14 Characteristics of Fascism
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Again, we are deeply saddened at the loss of life...


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Posted: July 08 2005, 02:47

Quote (TubularBelle @ July 08 2005, 12:17)
I think they are too quick to blame terrorists for their own means, when it could just as easilly be the work of a crazy Englishman or someone who is reacting to the G8 summit or to London winning the Games.


As far as I'm concerned that is still terrorism. Of course we don't know for sure who did this and why, but I've heard an Islamic group has claimed responsibility. No matter who is responsible, this attack and all like it are absolutely shocking and disgusting, and I hope those responsable are brought to justice.


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Posted: July 08 2005, 03:00

Yes I suppose it is still terrorism but I was thinking more along the lines, and in response to Blue Tapes comments, that political leaders may try and blame Middle Eastern influences before they have any real proof just because it fits in with their political agenda. Haven't heard the news yet so don't know if anyone has claimed responsibility, but even that could be a ploy by the governement.

The importance of finding out who did it is to stop them from doing it again, even if their reasons are politically based, it should still be about protecting our innocent community and not about our political leaders personal agenda. I really know nothing about politics so I shouldn't say anymore.


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Posted: July 08 2005, 03:06

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Posted: July 08 2005, 04:05

My two eldest sons were working in the vicinity of yesterdays attacks.One,nearby where the bus was blasted & his younger brother was in Liverpool St.I had quite a worrying time for a while as was unable to get a response from their mobile phones.Thank goodness that they both called me shortly after to let me know both were ok.
At that point I didn't ask for details of their experience as it was enough for me to know all was well.My eldest son is coming to visit me this evening & will tell me all then.But, they  will continue to work in the capital just like countless others.

I care very,very,deeply about the suffering that goes on worldwide and the knowledge that children are starving to death saddens me deeply-any human suffering does.To think that in this day & age these terrible things are still taking place beggars beleif.Each time I go about my day with perhaps the odd moan & groan to myself of bad day,upsetting event,concern about this,concern about that-all of a sudden give myself a silent telling off & reminder that in the bigger picture all these things are a drop in the ocean in comparison.

Blue Tape-you have a right to express your thoughts & feelings no matter how crazy some folk may think them to be.
It was not your aim to cause offence in any way-I keep an open mind & ready to accept that anything's possible.

I'm not going to comment re:politics -just that I don't much care for either Bush or Blair & something from behind Blair's false smile has always bothered me.


Finaly,Alan-courtesy of one of your past postings I have discovered the wonderful world of Vaughan Williams & played this yesterday while trying to take my mind off things-it helped
so,thankyou


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