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Bassman Group: Members Posts: 548 Joined: Feb. 2008 Posted: July 22 2008, 15:38 This topic is sort of on the heels of Toto's retirement, and in general for how much I miss Jeff Porcaro.  Remember, I said "your faves", not "who was the best that I didn't necessarily care for".  And stick on an honorable mention just for fun! Anyway, my picks: 1) Jeff Porcaro 2) Hal Blaine 3) Neil Peart 4) Max Weinberg 5) Buddy Rich Honorable mention: Brian Downey. -------------- Turn up the music... Hi as Fi can go. Back to top

olracUK Group: Members Posts: 1683 Joined: June 2003 Posted: July 22 2008, 16:07 What? No Simon Phillips? Are you temporarily insane? Crises! As for 4 more, hmmm... 2) Peart 3) Alan White 4) Carl Palmer 5) Stuart Copeland Honourable mention - Roland TR 808    had more top 10 hits than any other drummer. By the way - have you seen this? Says drummers are as fit as soccer players (probably have the same IQ too) looky here -------------- The answer is 42 - but what is the question? Back to top

arron11196 Group: Members Posts: 826 Joined: April 2005 Posted: July 22 2008, 16:37 1. Gavin Harrison (listen to Fear Of A Blank Planet... especially the track Anesthetize) 2. Simon Phillips (have to agree with olracUK) 3. Stuart Tosh (gotta love the mastery of simplicity on I, Robot from Alan Parsons) 4. Pierre Moerlin (gotta love Platinum) 5. Larry Mullen Jr. Hon. mention: Phil Collins (some nice stuff on QE2   ) -------------- Arron J Eagling Everyone's interpretation is different, and everyone has a right to that opinion. There is no "right" one, I am adding this post to communicate my thoughts to share them with like-minded souls who will be able to comment in good nature. (insert the last 5 mins of Crises here) Back to top

Harmono Group: Members Posts: 759 Joined: May 2005 Posted: July 22 2008, 17:13 Well, these are my faves, and they're also the best. Babatunde Olatunji Steve Gadd Harvey Mason Carl Palmer Paulinho da Costa Honorary mention: Airto Moreira Second honorary mention: Phil Collins for Island Dreamer, found on Al Di Meola's Scenario (1983). Back to top

The Big BellEnd Group: Members Posts: 971 Joined: Jan. 2004 Posted: July 22 2008, 17:29 1 Donna Summers drummers. 2 The Detriot Runners drummers. 3 Ali Bongo. 4 That zany muppet puppet Animal. 5 The drummer for Lieutenant Pigeon, I don't know his name but he looked like chewy out of Star Wars. And an honourable mention to the pink bunny drummers from the Duracell adverts, boy could they play. -------------- I, ON THE OTHER HAND. AM A VICTIM OF YOUR CARNIVOUROUS LUNAR ACTIVITY. Back to top

ommadawn69 Group: Members Posts: 94 Joined: June 2002 Posted: July 22 2008, 21:31 1: Pierre Moerlin 2: Ola Brunkert 3: John Bonham 4: Neil Peart 5: Krzysztof "Docent" Raczkowski Honourable mention: Dennis Davis -------------- http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/TheAlternativeMikeOldfieldGroup/ Back to top

Tati The Sentinel Group: Members Posts: 3360 Joined: Feb. 2002 Posted: July 22 2008, 22:56 In no particular order: Phil Collins Simon Phillips Neil Peart Carl Palmer Bill Bruford -------------- "But it's always the outsider, the black sheep, that becomes the blockbuster." - Mike Oldfield, 2014 "I remember feeling that I'd been judged unfairly and that I was going to prove them wrong." - Peter Davison, 2011 Back to top

Scatterplot Group: Members Posts: 1981 Joined: Dec. 2007 Posted: July 23 2008, 01:26 Phil Collins Jeff Porcaro Cozy Powell Chester Thompson Jerry Edmonton -------------- We raise our voices in the night Crying to heaven And will our voices be heard Or will they break Like the wind Back to top

Dirk Star Group: Members Posts: 1331 Joined: Sep. 2007 Posted: July 23 2008, 07:58 Oh man only five this is really tough for me being a former drummer and everything.I`ve got a real fondness for a lot of 60`s drummers you know everything from Ringo to Keith Moon I guess.Especialy the merseybeat/mod/pre-psychedelic guys those dudes really knew how to fill a record out back then imo,given the recording limitations of the time etc.So a lot of it comes across now as just all snare and cymbals to some extent,but it`s just something I really get off on I think.To me my fondness for certain drummers can be just as much about the kit sound rather than the technique as well.Obviously when the 70`s came along(rock wise) certain players became a lot more technicaly advanced in the grand scheme of things.But there were a lot of albums from that period where the drumming just sounds flat or lifeless to me.One of the great things about punk music coming along for me was that all of a sudden drumming sounded crisp and punchy again.Just my own personal tastes though I have to say. So anyway back to the 60`s Bobby Elliot from The Hollies has always been a particular favourite of mine.All those little semi-syncopated snare things he used to do on the turnarounds I still love listening to all that stuff.The track Bus Stop is absolutely jam packed with em and it just kind of chugs along nicely as well.In all honesty that kind of drum sound/playing probably still does it for me more than anything else I can think of I have to say.I`m trying to think of another example now and lo and behold the first thing I thought of was Cilla Black`s Love Of The Loved Heh heh maybe I should be in the shocking admissions thread with all this stuff?Anyway I`ve rambled on enough here`s five I guess.. Bill Bruford Keith Moon Bobby Elliot Terry Chambers Dave Grohl Back to top

The Caveman Group: Members Posts: 2178 Joined: Jan. 2008 Posted: July 23 2008, 08:05 No mention of Peter "Ginger" Baker?Wonderful drummer if a swine of a man (according to a certian Mr Bruce). -------------- THE COMING OF THE GREAT WHITE HANDKERCHEIF IS NIGH. Back to top

Sir Mustapha Group: Musicians Posts: 2802 Joined: April 2003 Posted: July 23 2008, 08:36 I was absolutely sure that I had posted here. Heh, weird. Anyway, to be honest, I'm terrible at judging drummers and considering them good or bad. So, here's a stupid list, in no particular order: 1) Neil Peart 2) Tom Jenkinson (a.k.a. Squarepusher) 3) Bill Bruford 4) Roger Taylor 5) Orri Páll Dýrasson -------------- Check out http://ferniecanto.com.br for all my music, including my latest albums: Don't Stay in the City, Making Amends and Builders of Worlds. Also check my Bandcamp page: http://ferniecanto.bandcamp.com Back to top

raven4x4x Group: Members Posts: 1535 Joined: Jan. 2002 Posted: July 23 2008, 11:04 I won't do the top five thing, but I can name some favourites: Keith Moon is certainly on top. Just listen to the rock-out in the middle of Behind Blue Eyes. Simon Phillips of course, for me he's the most interesting drummer that Mike has worked with. I'd name the watcher in the tower section of Crises as a highlight. I'd agree with Bill Bruford as well, especially the bass/drums section at the start of Heart of the Sunrise by Yes. No-one seems to have mentioned Ringo Starr, but he's truely interesting on tracks like Rain, A Day in the Life and especially She Said She Said. I don't know if anyone here is a fan of The Band, but there's a short drum break in Rag Mama Rag that I absolutely love. Interesting the drums on this track were played by Richard Manuel, who normally played piano. I'm in a major Joy Division phase right now, and Stephen Morris' drumming is quite striking at times. Atmosphere is a particular highlight. Good to see Sir M highlight Orri from Sigur Rós. I was fortunate enough to see them live last year, and his drumming on Popplagið (or Untitled #8) was certainly an experience. Finally I'd like to mention the drummers from two more recent bands: Matt Tong from Bloc Party and Dominic Howard of Muse. I've really enjoyed both of them. Muse's Assassin is just mad, while Bloc Party's Like Eating Glass has a a great forcefull drum intro. This was a most enjoyable topic to think about! We must do this with bass players sometime! -------------- Thank-you for helping us help you help us all. Back to top

The Caveman Group: Members Posts: 2178 Joined: Jan. 2008 Posted: July 23 2008, 11:46 Ah Raven you mention Ringo.I have to agree with you.He is possibly the most underated drummer on the planet.Phil Collins once said that if you ask many of the top players to play the fills in A Day In The Life they'd be stuffed!  Also,although he's mentioned by loads of people already,Pierre Moerlin was so underated too.Such an inventive drummer.Listen to the Gong stuff (the early stuff is my favourite),Steve Hillage's Fish Rising or,for the ultimate example,the drum solo on Ommadwn at Knebworth when Mike Frye and Benoit Moerlin drop out leaving Pierre to do his thing.I'm no drummer but what that man does to the snare is amazing.Yes it's jazz inspired but it's not flash for it's own sake.I understand he was another troubled soul and i think he also did the Exegesis thing.On the inner sleeve of Downwind he thanks Charles and Exegesis stating "i don't know what we'd have done without you". -------------- THE COMING OF THE GREAT WHITE HANDKERCHEIF IS NIGH. Back to top

Pertou Group: Members Posts: 10 Joined: July 2007 Posted: July 23 2008, 19:47 1. Chris Franke (Tangerine Dream) 2. Jaki Liebeszeit (Can, Michael Rother) 3. Harald Großkopf (Klaus Schulze) 4. Neil Peart (Rush) 5. Phil Collins (Genesis) Honorable mention: Dennis Dunaway (Alice Cooper) -------------- Please visit my Tangerine Dream Blog http://tangerinedream.pertou.dk/ Back to top

Dirk Star Group: Members Posts: 1331 Joined: Sep. 2007 Posted: July 24 2008, 03:44 According to John Lennon Ringo was`nt even the best drummer in The Beatles.. Seriously though Ringo is very under-rated I agree.And I did mention him earlier so I`m not just riding in here on a sudden "All praise the Starkey wave".But anyway picking up on that Phil Collins quote that Caveman mentions there.I`m sure Phil also said something along the lines of "Any band is only ever as good as your drummer,which by default makes Ringo Starr the greatest drummer ever of course".. But yeah I`d agree with all those tracks that Raven4x4x mentions some great playing on those.Strawberry Fields has got some great moments in it as well particularly towards the end.But I know myself from experience a lot of Ringo`s early drumming is quite difficult to get to grips with.If you listen to what he`s playing on the ride cymbal of I Feel Fine for instance.You know it kind of goes against the grain of the way most rock drummers have played over the last thirty plus years.Not too mention the rest of the off the wall kind of stuff he`s playing on there.And another great thing about Ringo is that he uses the hi-hat.You know most players nowadays may as well put a bloody brick down on that foot pedal or just remove the damn thing altogether save hassle setting up your kit guys.And above all else and especialy in the early days for me he was always "in the groove".There are a lot of indie bands around at the moment for me that contain drummers that are just not "in the groove" at all.In some cases I can be listening to some of them and they`re not even anywhere close.I could program my computer to come up with more feel than some of these dudes.I really do wonder who the hell is signing these people up sometimes?I don`t know if they`re trying to run before they can crawl or what,but yeah they`re nowhere near.I was`nt gonna` mention any names but Cold War Kids there you go.Completely unlistenable for me simply because of the drummer.But they`re not the only ones..Well actualy the guy in The Only Ones was quite good but I digress. One thing about Ringo though was that according to tv presenter Johnny Ball he could never play a drum roll properly.Apparently Ringo asked Johnny to teach him how to do one when they were playing at some holiday camp together pre-Beatles days.If you listen to For The Benefit Of Mr Kite I`d say he just about gets there...Only just mind..     Back to top

The Caveman Group: Members Posts: 2178 Joined: Jan. 2008 Posted: July 24 2008, 08:02 I must agree Dirk but i thought the quote Lennon made was that Ringo was the best drummer for the Beatles.Anyway he does a great job.Listen to the chorus of Strawberry Fields.The drum track was overdubbed a few times and the result is a massive drum sound. I'd also agree with the point that a band is only as good as the drummer,but the bass player plays as big a part in holding down the groove.If the rhythm section is steady it makes everyone's job  easier.Playing lead guitar over a shaky rhythm section is a bitch!   -------------- THE COMING OF THE GREAT WHITE HANDKERCHEIF IS NIGH. Back to top

Sir Mustapha Group: Musicians Posts: 2802 Joined: April 2003 Posted: July 24 2008, 08:29 Quote (The Caveman @ July 24 2008, 08:02) I must agree Dirk but i thought the quote Lennon made was that Ringo was the best drummer for the Beatles. If I remember the story correctly, the Lennon quote happened when Ringo temporarily quit the band after all the fighting during the recording of the self-titled white album, which prompted McCartney to take over the drumkit in some tracks (e.g. Back in the U.S.S.R.). But then again, Lennon also said that Joe Cocker's version of With a Little Help from My Friends is the way the song should have been originally recorded... which brings Lennon's credibility in my book to pretty much zero. By the way, not that Jaki Liebeszeit has been mentioned, I should give a honourable mention to the late Klaus Dinger, from NEU!, who has been responsible for one of the great trademarks of 70's German krautrock - the "apache" beat which went on to influence the likes of David Bowie and Stereolab. Give a whirl to Hallogallo, Isi and Hero and you'll see. -------------- Check out http://ferniecanto.com.br for all my music, including my latest albums: Don't Stay in the City, Making Amends and Builders of Worlds. Also check my Bandcamp page: http://ferniecanto.bandcamp.com Back to top

Major Gowen Group: Members Posts: 83 Joined: June 2008 Posted: July 25 2008, 00:45 In no particular order, my favourite drummers are: Ringo Starr Keith Moon Stephen Morris BJ Wilson Steve Jansen Back to top

Holger Group: Members Posts: 1506 Joined: Feb. 2003 Posted: Aug. 01 2008, 12:52 Ah, nice, I like drummers Neil Peart Morris Pert Phil Collins Danny Carey Bill Ward honourable: Asgeir Mickelson Back to top

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